How MLMs Ruin Friendships – My 100% Honest Nerium Review

By Ian | Negative Reviews

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If you’re reading this post someone is probably trying to recruit you into Nerium, and you’re trying to figure out if the product is any good, whether or not it’s a scam, and possibly even if you’re experiences thus far are common company-wide. In this 100% honest Nerium review I’m going to share my real-life experiences with the company and the product, and hopefully help you decide whether or not promoting or buying Nerium is right for you.

I am not a Nerium Brand Partner, and I don’t make any money selling the product. I’m just an honest guy on the internet doing my best to make sure people can find truthful, unbiased information about work-at-home opportunities when they need it.

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Why I’m Creating this Post in the First Place

I spent over two months evaluating Nerium’s product, company, and sales training because a friend of mine that’s been very successful in another network marketing company made the switch to promoting Nerium and was very excited about the way the company was run and their compensation model. He also assured me that the company was very young and I was getting in pretty close to the ground-level, which is the Holy Grail of MLM opportunity.

Unfortunately, I still haven’t decided whether or not this person is my “friend” anymore. We’ve known each other for almost ten years and always swapped entrepreneurial news/interests and caught up every few weeks on each other’s businesses and how they were doing. It was a healthy, inspiring relationship.

Texting between my Nerium friend and I

My friend’s recruiting numbers: Less than 2 in 100 earning a Lexus
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Ever since I expressed the slightest interest in reviewing Nerium and considering promoting it, our friendship has quickly changed. I feel more like a savory, mouth-watering sales prospect than a friend and our relationship has changed to a rigid, “let me send you a piece of network marketing news every couple of weeks” acquaintance rather than something that’s mutually beneficial and no-pressure.

I won’t share this person’s name because I still hope to continue being friends someday and I respect him as a businessperson, but he is one of the top recruiters for Nerium (as he was in his last MLM organization) and there is a decent chance that readers of this review are being recruited by the same person due to the sheer volume of recruits he’s signing up.

And before I go any further, I have made very clear to my friend that I am no longer interested in Nerium but I continue to be followed-up with and treated like a sales prospect. This isn’t a situation where I started dodging him for no reason and didn’t communicate properly – I expressed my concerns and clearly said “I’m not interested” but he will not let up, which seems to be rather common across Nerium’s Brand Partner network from what I’ve read online.

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My Initial Concerns: The Product’s Validity

I have a very firm rule that I do not give on at all, whatsoever – if a product isn’t excellent, I will not promote it. I don’t care how much someone pays me. If I can’t believe in the product, then I won’t try to convince anyone else to believe in it either. I expressed this to him immediately, and he referred me to a Nerium-funded research study. If you know what you’re doing, you can hire a research company to say almost anything you want them to say, so I had to dig further.

I tried the product myself (my friend mailed me a sample) and, although I’m only 26 at the time of writing this review, I have very subtle crow’s feet from too much smiling and laughter (a “problem” I’m happy to have) which I saw improve over the 5-day Nerium trial period. There could be a lot of reasons for this, however, so I kept on digging.

The first place I turned to was Amazon.com, since I’ve found that their reviews are usually pretty dependable. The product only had a 3.5 star rating, which at first seems fairly acceptable until you factor in the fact that this data is skewed and not completely unbiased.

Amazon customer rating of Nerium Night and Day Cream

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When you’re shopping for, say, a phone case on Amazon, you can pretty much trust the rating because the product owner and their friends/family can only leave so many reviews, giving you the peace of mind that almost all of the reviewers have no ties to the company. This is not the case for Nerium. Every Brand Partner’s business is affected by this rating, therefore many of them are absolutely going to log on and review the product positively since they’re selling it.

So I decided to do even more digging, and quickly found this review from a site run by a couple of doctors that I found very balanced, well-researched, and informative. I also noticed many commenters were experiencing the same high-pressure sales from friends and family members as I was, leading me to believe this has something to do with Nerium’s sales training. Then I found a San Francisco news report that made me raise an eyebrow as well. I also found another doctor negatively reviewing the product on her site which raised even more serious concerns for me.

It seemed like everything I was finding not produced by Nerium or one of their Brand Partners cast serious doubt on the validity of the product. Even if it produces short-term results that continue as long as you’re using the product, it can be due to irritation/inflammation of the skin which isn’t necessarily healthy.

I found a lot of concerning information in this stage of my review, but I kept digging and talking with my friend about the company.

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The Nerium Success Pack and Training

As I mentioned, my friend is pretty well connected and respected within this company so he pulled a few strings and sent me the training/documentation from Nerium’s Success Pack, which I’m very glad I didn’t spring the $500 minimum for. I’m not glad because the training wasn’t impressive, I’m just glad because I ultimately decided the company was not a good fit for me and I wasn’t out $500 as a result.

Nerium's Success Pack bundle

There’s a lot of stuff included. There’s Nerium order forms, self-development audiobooks, information on hosting your Nerium party/opportunity presentation, etc… My friend is an experienced network marketer and he said that he’s never seen a company set their Brand Partners up for success so well, which I don’t doubt, but I still wasn’t able to get past the negative information I had uncovered about the product.

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Nerium’s Success Pack unbundled
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A Slightly Less Confusing Compensation Plan

One thing that I really liked about Nerium vs. my friend’s old MLM (which he approached me about as well) was how much easier the compensation plan was to explain. If you do this, you get a free iPad. If you do this next, you get a “free” Lexus (I place free in quotation marks because this is a lease that they’re paying for right now, if you dip below a certain volume you’re still in contract for that Lexus). If you get to that level, you should have approximately $X,XXX in monthly income due to your volume alone.

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I liked that, but I can’t explain how unwavering I am in my belief of not promoting a bad product no matter what I’m compensated with. You could pay me thousands of dollars for every person I sign up and I still won’t promote the company if I don’t believe the product and company are setting my referrals up for success.

Coming Full-Circle, Nerium’s High-Pressure Sales Tactics

Ultimately it wasn’t solely the lack of unbiased, positive reviews and research studies that pushed me out of seriously considering Nerium – my friend/Brand Partner did a lot of the work too. I clearly expressed that I had discussed it with my wife and that, due to the fact that I was inexperienced with MLM/network marketing, I was choosing to stay the course with my already successful internet marketing business and other, non-MLM entrepreneurial ventures.

I also expressed a serious concern about damaging relationships I have with friends and family members by going “warm-market”, which prompted him to tell me that we didn’t need to go warm market and we could still figure it out (which was very different than his previous recommendation that I should absolutely go warm-market and approach friends/family members).

As I shared earlier from one of our text conversations, my friend continued to try to use his success within the company to persuade me to sign up under him. An existing Brand Partner’s success has nothing to do with what level of success you will achieve. In my friend’s case, he has about a six year head start on me regarding the network marketing industry so to expect those kinds of results would be ludicrous.

Texting between my Nerium friend and I

My friend’s recruiting numbers: Less than 2 in 100 earning a Lexus
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Telling me that you have recruited over 400 people and only 7 of them have earned a “free” Lexus does not incentivize me to promote this company. He’s in a great position with a very highly positioned mentor that is passing him referrals as well, so presenting these numbers has absolutely no bearing on how much I will make if I join the company. It may cause other people to get excited, but I’ve had enough business experience over the years to know that another entrepreneur’s success with their developed skill set does not indicate any future success if I tried my hand at the same business/industry.

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Besides, having less than 2 people out of 100 achieve the most heavily preached goal within the company is fairly bleak in my opinion. If I join a company for $500-$1,000 and encourage the others to do the same, but 98 out of 100 of them don’t achieve the most heavily incentivized goal and possibly lose money and/or damage relationships – I’m personally failing A LOT of people, and I’ve avoided promoting other products in the past for this exact reason.

Since my long-time friend was now only contacting me with more reasons to join Nerium, I stopped replying to his communication. I’d made my choice clear, and unfortunately he was not respecting it. Now our conversations are completely one-sided, where my friend just sends me periodic updates and articles that try to get me excited about running an MLM business.

Today's conversations with my friend

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What It All Came Down To, and What I Decided In the End

As I’ve mentioned a couple of times in this post, due to the high-pressure sales pitch I was receiving from my long-term friend and what the unbiased information I could find on the product was indicating, I ultimately decided promoting Nerium was not for me. I didn’t want to damage relationships the way my friend has recently damaged ours, and I couldn’t find enough credible, unbiased information to convince me that the product was as legitimate and safe as the company claims.

Remember, just because someone you know or someone you’ve met is doing well with Nerium is not at all an indicator of your future success with the company. Just because the company is growing rapidly does not indicate that the product is incredible – that can be artificially created by a high-paying commission structure and high-pressure sales tactics. Just because you hear about a trip to Cancun or someone earning a free Lexus does not in any way predict whether or not you and your referrals will be successful within Nerium.

Ultimately I couldn’t determine the product’s safety and effectiveness through credible third party medical verification. In addition to that, even my friend with 6+ years in network marketing/MLM had less than 2 out of 100 people earning a “free” Lexus, how much could a new network marketer like me really set my referrals up for success?

Just because I can make money selling this product and opportunity to other people was not enough. Since I couldn’t fully verify that I would be selling a 100% medically vetted, safe product through sources outside of Nerium’s network and I couldn’t be sure that the opportunity I was selling would set others up for success, I personally passed on endorsing and promoting this product.

I hope you’ve found this information helpful, and I wish you all the best of success with your business ventures within and outside of Nerium International.

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I’ve been really surprised by some of the disrespectful, visceral, flat-out hateful comments that people within Nerium’s network have left on anything that doesn’t sing the company’s praises. I love open dialogue and hearing other perspectives, but please keep your comments relevant to the Nerium review above and respectful. If so, I will approve and reply to them even if they’re contradictory to my opinions.

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I've been in internet marketing for over 10 years, and I've purchased dozens of illegitimate products for the sole purpose of evaluating them and exposing the truth about these products to anyone who's thinking about purchasing it. I never let money influence my rating of a product and your success/safety is my absolute highest priority. Don't want to buy a product? Register for one of my 100% free internet marketing training courses>>

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(141) comments

Muriel September 29, 2014

Hi there Ian, I really like this post of yours. Very informative and you break down the various aspects. Great job!

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    Ian September 30, 2014

    No problem Muriel, I’m glad you found it to be helpful! Thanks for stopping by and leaving a comment to let me know you were here. I really appreciate that!

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Jennifer September 29, 2014

Nerium International sounds to be to much work if you ask me, Since I am apart of Wealthy Affiliate, I have learned so much with all that WA teaches, and I am still learning. I have tried a few other MLM’s before But I would rather be simply an Affiliate, then an MLM. I hate pushing products and cold calling, with a passion. That Is why I choose affiliate marketing so I can choose the products that I am interested in. And perhaps someone else is interested and wanting to learn more about that particular product. You have done a great job with this article, very informative. Thanks again.

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    Ian September 30, 2014

    No problem, Jennifer! I’m glad that I could help. It’s definitely a lot of work, but then again, what business isn’t? Even an affiliate marketing business takes an incredible amount of time and effort to build up, but as you’ve touched on one of the biggest bonuses to me in affiliate/internet marketing and why I prefer that business is no need to recruit others or approach friends and family members. That’s a big deal to me, as I have a very skeptical circle of friends/family and would HATE to sign them up and risk watching them fail. Thanks for stopping by and commenting, Jennifer! I really appreciate it.

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    Deborah Norman December 25, 2016

    Hi Jennifer, I thought that at first also, however what I have perfected quite by accident is that all I do is talk to people that I come into contact with. Im out shopping anyway, so while I am shopping for other products I just introduce myself to who ever I start talking to at the shops which is something I did anyway and tell them in about 30 seconds what my new home business is and show my before and after photo and give them a card, Its 10 mins work a day, the I will do some posts and send out a few emails. thats it. so easy. I actually enjoy the social aspect and have fun. So say I go in to a salon to have my nails done-while Im there getting them done I just tell everyone about what i am doing and pass around my photo and a few cards, thats it, Im am there anyway getting a service so I swap. If I walk past a stall with a new business owner I take their cards and hand them out as I think all small business that is local need to support each other, then they hand out my cards. its easy once you know. Hope that helps.

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    Jacquelyn Tobin January 8, 2017

    Statements like this are part of the problem. Recruiters say same thing in every mlm. Just wear the product. It sells itself. Hand out a few business cards. Strike up conversations, make a few calls. Calling you on mlm sales BS.

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Cathy October 1, 2014

My good friend (still is) is one of the top sales person in his MLM team. When he knew that I was going through some rough patches in my career, he offered to give me some ‘inspiration’ – met up for drinks, listen to my rants and eventually showing me the ultimate ‘opportunity’.

I wouldn’t say that I take the bait. I wanted a way out and here’s my friend trying to help me so why not. So I spent months learning about the company’s products, gaining personal insights into the world of marketing, finance and economy in ways I never knew existed.

But…after taking a break from work, I bumped into affiliate marketing and finds it more appealing to my way of life and dealing with people. When my friend asked why I stopped attending the company’s workshop, I told him that, thanks to his inspiration, I have started a big project and it’s all good for my career in the long run.

I think he understood what I meant and for that, I guess we are still friends.

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    Ian October 3, 2014

    Thanks for stopping by, Cathy! All MLMs are far from created equal, and as far as all of the MLMs I had looked into in the past, Nerium was probably the most promising and I’m glad my friend is doing well there (I just couldn’t get past what I was reading about the product from many consumers and almost any credible medical professional that wasn’t affiliated with Nerium). I’m really glad you’re enjoying affiliate marketing and that your business is growing, though! Everyone’s personal preferences play a big role in what type of business is right for them, and it sounds like you and I were cut from the same cloth – pursuing MLM over affiliate/internet marketing just doesn’t feel like it’s right for me.

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      Teri Cottone December 10, 2016

      I find this uninformed and frankly a ploy to recruit people. I was in the cosmetic industry for years. Nerium actually does have the 3rd party testing even some medical brands don’t have. The research was conducted by a 3rd party called ST&T research. I was too arrogant to even try the product. It wouldn’t be effective for someone 26 years old however it does more for loose skin than many medical brands I’ve tried. It takes being consistent and in my opinion it doesn’t have enough moisture.
      I agree with your assessment in recruiting but the product itself is miraculous if it contains NAE-8 extract.

      The product line is expanding and as far as MLM goes I believe it is typical the products themselves however are not. . The things people do to justify their actions I personally find abhorrent. The personal development and training given in the beginning was hands down fabulous but too many don’t practice what they preach. It creates a culture of cut throat competition which is the very thing they say makes MLM different. Part of it is the compensation plan. It is created to keep the top people working. Signing under someone who has to keep their top people ranked is part of the problem IMO. The products however are stellar. I don’t like 21st century payment and marketing structures. Period. It is creating I got screwed so I will screw you culture.It I hope Capitalists turn their ways around or this next generation will end it which will be detrimental. If people have doubts about the Nerium Products Google ST&T research and Dr Larry Fann. They wouldn’t have staked their stellar reputations for a start up company.

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        Ian December 11, 2016

        Thank you very much for sharing your perspective and insight, Teri. I think it’s helpful and informative for community members finding and reading this review.

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Evelyn October 1, 2014

I had to read this article as I can relate to this story. I never heard of Nerium, but I’ve been involved in the MLM industry before. I personally believe that these types of business models doesn’t work period. Here’s why!

In your article you state that your friend is successful in the MLM industry. Now he leaves one successful business and goes to another. I’m sure he got a lot of the people that was in his previous downline to go to this new Nerium. I’m sure he pitched to his old downline, it’s new and you got to get in fast before you’re in the bottom of the totem pole and I will help you make money with Nerium.

A lot of people go because all they care about is making money. It’s a people joining people business that hides behind a product to make it seem “legal”. If he was so successful in his first MLM business, why did he leave? I seen this all the time in the MLM industry. That is why I don’t want to be apart of that. You will be surprised how much money these “high in ranking” people don’t make. Sometimes these cars are not even cars they own, it’s leased out. I haven’t researched Nerium or know their compensation plan nor do I care to. The people at Nerium may own the cars and the compensation plans may be great.

Lots MLM businesses change their compensation plans all the time. They usually start off with a great compensation plan, then they change it or make new rules as they go. People be careful with types of businesses. It’s best to just stay away from them period. Don’t get your friends and family involved in the mess either. Sorry for being so harsh on this comment I just want people to know how I feel and what I’ve seen and experienced.

I hope someday you and your friend will be friends again. This is a great article. I don’t blame you for doing your research and deciding against building a business based on just making money. The business model is very important and so is the products. All the best!

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    Ian October 3, 2014

    Thanks so much for stopping by and taking the time to leave such a passionate and personal comment, Evelyn! I honestly don’t think my friend is remotely as bad as a lot of people I’ve seen in the industry over the years, but you’re right – I really felt like he had a head start on contacts/people within his network to recruit after being successful in the industry for many years. I too hope that we can go back to the friendship we used to have prior to my initial interest in Nerium, and I’m really confident that he’s going to be incredibly successful within the company, it just wasn’t for me and I wish that had been acknowledged and respected a bit better due to our long-term friendship of many years.

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    Duncan February 4, 2017

    MLM is a legitimate business model. We have huge companies that have been around for years! Amway, Juice Plus etc etc. So no one can say that it does not work.

    How many people succeed in business? How many businesses shut down after a year or two?

    MLM is like any other business. It suits some but not everyone. The recent shenanigans

    with companies being fined is forcing MLM companies to acquire more customers. Believe

    it or not most MLM companies have more customers than distributors. Affiliate

    marketing

    also takes work. Anything worthwhile does.

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Destiny February 8, 2015

I would like to post a few comments because I have lived the Nerium Experience for the past 1 1/2 years and it has been nothing short of a nightmare! About a year and a half ago my boyfriends cousin approached him with this Nerium AD, immediately I laughed at the notion that a cream would erase all my wrinkles however was very open minded about it. My boyfriend and I went and met with who we believed was just his cousin but when we entered into the restaurant we were approached by not just his cousin but also another lady. Long story short, I have never believed in MLM (although I am sure there are many good ones) Anyhow both of these ladies were Nerium Brand Partners, so as we listened to their nerium pitch, focusing more so on the business side of it then the product itself, as they said “when do you want to sign up” I looked over at my boyfriend and said “I would like to try the product first, see how I like it as well as do a little research and we would get back to them in a few weeks” my boyfriend and I left and I was pretty open minded. That night they called my boyfriend and yes convinced him to sign up as a brand partner. The next day my boyfriend proceeds to tell me we were now “in business together”, of course feeling somewhat disrespected that the brand partners called him in spite of me asking for time to try the product and do a little research, he is much more of a pushover then myself, I am a small business owner so I do tend to do a lot of research before I jump into anything especially when it sounds too good to be true. Anyhow let’s fast forward into the Brand Partner Experience, I have to say I did not have anything to do with this product as I actually tried the product in which my face broke out terribly, when we brought it up to the brand partners they said that was normal…ugh! The difficult thing about all this is my boyfriend has become obsessed with this so called “Nerium Family” spending a LOT of money to go to Nerium conferences, has recruited family members and I could go on but I wont however will say he has been a brand partner for almost 2 years, no he did not get an ipad or Lexus but the money he has spent he could have bought one all by himself lol. Now for those who are “naysayers” or even so much as question their “Servant Leader, Jeff Olson” you are bad, in fact I operate a small business and my boyfriend has even thrown blows at me stating I am just jealous because Nerium is much bigger then my business will ever be..which in all honesty I could care a less I don’t specialize in Skincare lol! Now my boyfriend tells me that now Nerium is working on cures for cancer, Alzheimer and a few more diseases…and Nerium is so big and he is so excited to be part of it all. I have asked him the question “Do you really believe your nerium family is going to care about you if something happens and you decide to no longer sell nerium and make the up-lines money” sadly he is convinced they are all his friends and family, that they genuinely care about him and would never steer him wrong. In the past year and a half he has spent more money then I make during a year and says its an investment into his future. It has gotten so bad that we can’t even go on a nice date without him wearing a shirt and hat that has Nerium written all over it and even approaches the waitress about Nerium..honestly it has become embarrassing and I don’t even want to go anywhere with him anymore. His family is fine with it because he also has recruited his brother and nephew! This Nerium Experience has ruined every ounce of respect and admiration I have ever had for him. The sad part is their motto is “get real” so if you are a non believer the only real thing about it is, it ruins REAL RELATIONSHIPS, REAL LIVES, REAL FAMILIES, REAL FRIENDSHIPS..nothing real about a room full of strangers that call themselves family in my opinion. So after being with him for 5 years this Nerium experience has caused me to break things off with him because I can’t take it anymore, truth is I realized after doing a lot of research outside of anything Nerium posts I have found that it goes against any of my moral compass and I can not support nor be with anyone who believes Nerium is honest and wonderful. So beings I have been part of both trying the product as well as living the Brand Partner experience I can honestly say DON’T GIVE IT A SECOND LOOK…NOT THE PRODUCT OR THE BUSINESS because once you become any part of it you will loose real friends, family and relationships not to mention respect from many people who genuinely care about you..and when it’s all said and done all you will have left are a bunch of strangers who really care nothing about you and your well being but rather only how much money you can make them, and this will be your new FAKE Family!!!! Anyone who brings it up to me I say “Don’t look at it, Dont even go to a Nerium Party….and common sense is if you want good skin then eat better, take vitamins and take better care of yourself as common sense is beautiful skin comes from how well you take care of yourself!” and that is my experience with Nerium International..Dont Do IT!!!!! From Montana

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    Ian February 9, 2015

    I can’t tell you how sorry I am to hear you’re going through all of this, Destiny. My heart sank more and more as I read through your comment. This is just terrible, and I can’t imagine all of the ways this has impacted your life. If I can ever help with anything or do anything for you at all, please don’t hesitate to reach out. I’m not sure what it would be, but if you ever think of anything just let me know.

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    Steph July 10, 2015

    WOW! This sounds like what is happening to my mom!!! I have tried to tell her the research I found on Nerium and she won’t listen to negative reviews. Nerium has almost totally consumed her time as well as her full time job. My mom has earned a free iPad and is close to earning a Lexus. She is right now downstairs discussing Nerium with a lady who has earned the Lexus (I think, but I don’t know bc I haven’t seen the paperwork).
    I’m happy for my mom, but I am sooooo sick and tired of hearing about Nerium. You can be successful, HOWEVER it depends on your experience and how many people you know. I credit my mom’s success to her having an MBA and experience. She tried to recruit me but it didn’t work. She has had Nerium parties before and the look on some ladies faces says it all. One key question that is never answered or thoroughly talked about is ingredients and a third party research to back Nerium up. & she is dead set on using Nerium techniques.
    If anyone tries to sell me Nerium I will not be afraid to say it’s a piece of shit & I would rather OWN a Lexus.

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    Teri December 17, 2015

    It sounds like you weren’t sponsored well either. So many vetted MLM people with bad habits came to Nerium. It is a great product. I feel your pain. 5 hours a week??? More like 5 hours a day to be marginally successful. I wish their compliance team did more to make people play fair. There are certain cliques within the company that make it hard. <3 There are others that are wonderful. The first thing said, is your business won't grow past your personal development. Then why do they continue to allow unethical people to keep working.
    The flagship product is great!

    The reason they refer to it is a family is to have you living in a bubble with like-minded people. There are good people there. Creating a team of runners is a full time proposition. If you wouldn't go into traditional business with a certain person, don't let them sponsor you. I'm sorry you had such a negative experience. I did too but allowed it. I spoon fed certain people my prospects. Stupid me! ( At the time I was in a small town.) If you really listened, Jeff warned us. This is with any MLM company. I still use and love the product. I have extensive experience with skincare. Nerium AD night treatment isn't for younger skin unless you have certain issues. Even people who will pay $300 for a moisturizer don't want to get a monthly bill. I've heard they may change the model to stay active. If they do, I may reconsider. Again I really dislike hearing about people who bust their butts to no avail. It is the way the comp plan is structured. You can only place 4 deep at lower ranks, so even if you have a runner, you can't place underneath them to help. You have to keep your SR ranks SR to hold your own. Even though I understand why the company structured it this way, they know human nature. I struggled with that myself. On the flip side someone high ranking not in my geneology helped me tremendously and got nothing out of it. Jeff Olson warns us over and over, you just had to listen. Good luck to you in anything you choose to do…

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    John Doe January 12, 2016

    It’s unfortunate that in the MLM Industry most of the individuals have no sales background. They have no idea on how uncover need and sell benefits. Ultimately you have to show value to you customer. Once you have been successful in doing this than and only than ask for the money. I have been approached by many individuals to sell Nerium, Rodan & Fields among st others.. NOT INTERESTED is always my response due to the fact that they are not trained to sell.. All they want is you hard earned money! These companies will never last!!!

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    Naaman February 12, 2017

    i have been a brand partner now for 3 years. I don’t practice pressure tactics talking about Nerium. If people are not interested I leave them alone.

    It really depends on how you run your business. Nerium does work and the compensation plan is great. Personal development Is more important than pushing product. Educating myself about skin care, the affects of brain activity EHT, then educating the people around me. The use of social media websites also assist me and my team.

    You have to become an expert about your product. Be a professional not a jerk. Some products and opportunity are going to appeal to people some are Nottingham and that’s okay.

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Rachelle March 2, 2015

Thank you so much for this informative and easy to understand review of Nerium. My friend is currently a brand partner and has recruited many mutual friends to join her in this “exciting business opportunity.”
Our friendship has suffered greatly. She missed my daughters 1st Birthday for a Nerium conference….among many other things.
My Facebook wall is a steady stream of nerium advertisements. Join now – it’ll be as big as Google! It only takes 5 hours a week! Dont you want to work at home so you can be with your kids?
There is a definitely a cultlike mentality within this nerium family which easily is threatened and offended if you question their product.
im sorry but when did we stop taking pride in creating our own businesses from scratch with integrity and hard work!
If a friend did that , i would support in a heartbeat.
i will not be supporting nerium.
Thanks again.

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    Ian March 2, 2015

    I’m so sorry to hear about your experiences, Rachelle. I see many parallels here with what I experienced with my friend, who I eventually de-friended on Facebook hoping to send a clear message that I was not interested. I’m happy for his success, but it saddens me a little that our friendship meant so little to him once it came time to approach me about this “opportunity”. I don’t regret not joining to this day, and I’m happy that sharing my experienced is resonating with and helping people like you. Thank you for sharing your story too.

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Jane Doe March 24, 2015

I have my own small business that I am growing–just me–no overhead–starting up and I, too have been approached by a friend who is part of the Neurium group. I’m noticing a play on my sympathy–“I understand your time is a factor….and what if you could pay it forward?” As if this is a case of me being a good sanitation or going straight to hell for saying “no.” Helping starving children is paying it forward. Helping people in your community and worldwide is paying it forward. Spending a ton of money and pushing something on your friends through coercion, manipulation, and guilt-tripping, in my opinion, is not paying it forward. It’s just bad business.

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    Ian March 25, 2015

    Very well said. I couldn’t have put it better myself.

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    David Stapleton November 14, 2015

    Hi Jane,

    That was very helpful! I am about to start my own business in the health area. My colleagues here in Australia have signed up with Nerium at an entry level stage and are doing their best to entice me in. As a scientist I have had a close look at their products and am not overly convinced and less so when I hear about what can happen to your friendship groups!

    Thanks,

    David

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      Cheryl September 13, 2016

      I’ve had positive experiences with Nerium thus far! My son is ADHD/Dyslexic and the EHT has helped him with many things. He even stated that the Nerium “medicine” worked better than his blue and white pill, and nobody twisted his arm to say it. In fact, we weren’t even talking about Nerium at all! The eye serum has also show results, both short and long term. I’ve had a pharmacologist who was happy with the ingredients. Why are people disgusted? I know that some brand partners are way too pushy, but not all are. I feel the products are very good and if you work, then you will be rewarded! I feel like some comments are from those that are upset because maybe they didn’t succeed? Maybe not, but maybe so.

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        Maria February 12, 2017

        Cheryl,

        I’m so glad to see your sons positive results with EHT! I use it daily. My 88yr old parents started using it and both are amazed at their recall returning.

        I’ve had super Results with all their product. How long did it take me to get all my sun damaged wrinkles? 63yrs and after 9months on AD Night Cream my wrinkles have decreased substantially. And I don’t want to or expect to look like a 30yr old. Just letting it repair some of my damaged skin! It’s all in feeling good about yourself!!

        I’m with You completely that many will talk down Nerium because only 3% will become successful entrepreneurs and the other 97% will continue working making their bosses dreams come true!!

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michelle April 1, 2015

I wanted to thank you for your article. I have a friend who joined nerium and he is extremely involved with them. I definitely agree with the above comments stating that they are cult like. It’s like they are brain washed. I mean the company focuses on recruiting more sellers instead of their products. When I heard about the ingredients it disgusted me. Especially when I’ve had others try to recruit me. It hurts that my friend is involved in this as he saw it as a way to get out of a desperate time financially. But we have to live and learn. Thank you:) Sending love, light, and healing energy!

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    Ian April 2, 2015

    Thanks a lot, Michelle! I’m glad you found it helpful, and I’m glad you stayed away as well 🙂

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Lowery April 14, 2015

I have to say I fell for the “bait” of Nerium. And after going on 3 months of trying to sell it, I got 1 Preferred customer, made $11.50, and lost $500.00. That we could have used for something else. I am a stay at home mom, with 3 kids, my hubby has a good job, but I wanted an extra income. My friend who is high up in the company made it look so easy, as well as several others I know. One girl laughed and talked about how easy peasey it was, and got her first partner the very first day she started. It has not been easy peasey for me. I have talked to well over 30 people, never got partners out of it like they said on the training. I feel like I wasted a lot of time, and money, that I will never get back. Shattered dreams I was hoping for with this.Very, very bummed about it.

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    Ian April 15, 2015

    I’m so, so sorry to hear about your experiences, Lowery. That’s a heartbreaking story, but I greatly appreciate you taking the time to share it so anyone else researching Nerium here might be able to factor it into making their decision of becoming a “Brand Partner” or not.

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Caroline April 18, 2015

Thank you Ian, for providing this information. I first heard about Nerium from a younger co-worker about a year ago. When I was in my 20’s, I had an experience with an MLM, in which I went to the meeting, bought the starter kit and then upon the realization I’d have to push it on family and friends, quickly got out of it and just used the products in starter kit myself, because I did really like them. So, not much was lost. So when my coworker told me about nerium, I told her I’d try it. I was going to buy one, but when I found out it was about $100, she said I could do a 5 day trial first. I did that and cannot believe how horrible it was, Each day was a struggle. I couldn’t even do it for more than 3 days. The smell was nauseating and my skin got so dry. Instinctively, I felt that continuing its use would be detrimental. This lead me to do online research about the product and like you said, most of the information is written by them. I found the barefaced truth site and was glad that people were expressing the truth on that site. I felt pretty confident that it was a matter of time that they would be exposed for defrauding so many people with such a horrible and possibly dangerous product. So, recently, I see another Nerium post on Facebook and much to my dismay, someone in my accupuncture office has samples of it in the waiting room. I just now looked at the barefaced truth website and all info about nerium is gone, or at least I can’t find it. And when you google barefaced truth nerium they have their own nerium advertisement debunking all of that information. This shows how much they are aggressively trying to prevent the public from knowing the truth. To me, this type of greed is really “over the top”. Do not walk away from Nerium. Run as fast as you can. This is not about skin care. It is purely about greed.

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    Ian April 19, 2015

    I couldn’t agree more. What you said about BareFaced Truth is unfortunate. Maybe Nerium mailed them a cease and desist letter (not uncommon for owners of sites like this). It’s a way to bully people out of their rights to free speech, and unfortunately it usually works, leaving consumers less informed and the company more profitable. Thank you very much for taking the time to share your experiences – I’m glad you found my review and could contribute another perspective to the community here 🙂

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    Kimberley M. October 31, 2015

    OMG, I had the same experience with the night face cream (smell was nauseating, WAYYYY dried out my skin…even still over-dry days later). And it made my face sweat like crazy! So nasty. And I could only stand to use it ONCE. I didn’t even make it to bed with it on my face, I had to wash it off after an hour or so. I normally use totally natural/organic face stuff, but my hubby’s boss & wife are into Nerium up to their ears, and I honestly wanted to try it just so I could see if it worked for me or not (figuring if not, then at least that might shut them up). But no, this morning I just got a pkg on the doorstep from Nerium. They are trying to get my husband hooked on their EHT product now. I’m concerned because who knows how they decaffeinate the coffee beans they use? If it’s a supplement, maybe they could actually get around current food standards and use chemicals for that. AND, if you put the term “decaffeinated” on your product, you don’t have to include a caffeine content. I read that, depending on the type of bean (for example, Robusta vs Arabica), removing the 97% required to call it decaffeinated could still leave a fair amount of caffeine. In addition, the Huperzine-A can cause GI upset, although he doesn’t seem to have a very sensitive system. What worries me for him is that Huperzine-A can cause high blood pressure, which he IS prone to experience. Oy. I think he maybe also wants to be able to shut this guy up by at least trying the stuff. I hope he’ll be careful about it.

    Thank you for this article, Ian, in a way, it’s comforting to know the pushing is so common. It gives me even more confidence in my position that the products are crap (so I don’t just feel like the oddball whose experience just randomly goes against the so-called study statistics), and that the sales is all about building numbers (in one’s own organization). That’s not “relationship building”, it’s relationship USING. It’s like they have joined a new religion, which gives them (or I guess in this case, leads them to believe they can easily get) some kind of magic brownie points for everyone they convert…which just means buying a “starter kit”, not actually believing anything.

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      Ian November 1, 2015

      Hey Kimberly! Thank you so much for taking the time to share all of your experiences. I’m equally delighted that you found this post comforting and helpful as I am disappointed that you’re going through all of this. Hopefully your experiences will go a long way toward helping others finding this post decide whether or not this is a path they want to wander down.

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Dee April 25, 2015

I was so glad I came across your site. A friend of mine has been relentless in trying to get me to try Nerium, even after I said repeatedly, that I was not interested. This friend also has tried to get me to try their brain supplements, even though once again I said, not interested. I now get endless product emails and invites to Nerium product parties. It all made sense, after I read what you wrote.

Thanks!!

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    Ian April 27, 2015

    I’m glad I was able to help, Dee! I’m sorry that you’re experiencing this (I despise what Nerium is doing to friendships all over the world) but thank you very much for sharing your experiences with the community!

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April April 29, 2015

I had a friend do this to me also. Long time friend. Our husbands are in the service. We recently moved to Japan and are stationed here on a military base. She told me oh you don’t have to pay a restocking fee she told me the Japan market is about to open up. It didn’t and as for the restocking fee i found out only until after that if you don’t sell 3 products a month you have to pay a restocking fee. My dear friend LIED TO ME. In Nerium if you get 3 people to sign up with in the first month you get a big bonus. I was her big bonus at a cost to our friendship. When I confronted her with the im not going forward with this business she tried to convince me not to cancel my brand partner ship and just keep paying 110.00 a month for the product. Not because she was concerned about my skin but because of her BOTTOM LINE. She thought I would allow her to continue to make money off of me. Needless to say we are no longer friends.

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    Ian April 29, 2015

    That’s absolutely horrible, April. I’m really sorry that you went through that and that your friendship was ruined. It’s reassuring to know that I’m not alone as comments like this come in on this post, however, so thank you very much for sharing.

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    Joy September 23, 2016

    I’ve been reading all the Nerium comments and need to say a few things. Nerium opened in Japan on July 11, 2016.

    Yes, I sell Nerium. If a person says “no”, I don’t push it. I didn’t sell anything the first 10 months after joining and have NEVER paid a restocking fee!

    There will always be nay-sayers in any business – NWM, affiliate, regular start up businesses and any other type of business you can think of.

    Marijuana is supposed to be bad for you. Remove the THC and it’s very helpful medically. For 70 odd years the FDA said it didn’t help certain medical conditions. Now they admit it does. It’s the same with Nerium – a plastic surgeon isn’t going to say it works because he’d loose thousands of dollars per person that didn’t need his services anymore. And so on and so forth – I think you get the picture.

    Also, Im far from brainwashed and haven’t noticed anything “cult” like. I’ve also tried MLM’s before in the past that didn’t work. I tried the product and loved it! My up line is very relaxed and stress no “pushing”. I’m sure not everyone works that way tho.

    Thank for letting me put my two cents worth in !

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    Deborah Norman December 25, 2016

    HI April, I am so sorry that happened to you. That big bonus she ruined your friendship for was under $200. So many people get carried away, and out of fear make some very bad choices. I would like to stress to people that a company cannot cause this conflict. People cause the conflict. It takes a particular type of person to run their own company successfully, Unfortunately people with no business training, or self development training are racing around like chooks with their heads cut off trying to pull in people for a lousy buck instead of taking their time and structuring this for long term. I am watching this happen around me. It is the personality of the person involved and these types should not work in a company like this, You need a level head, some communication skills and continuous investment in your own personal growth. If all involved would take a step back and offer this opportunity to more stable and integral people then this would not happen. Nerium have structured this company to give a lot back. There is no difference than going in to a store and paying 200 for a Estee Lauda night cream that you will have to replace every month like food and any other product that you consume etc.. no difference just perceptions have been altered to accept those things as necessary and face cream not. but the reality is we need to use something everyday or we age faster. MLM was designed to pay people to get the word out instead of multi billion dollar advertising on the TV. We are just the Add.

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David Ireland April 30, 2015

I went to the barefacedtruth site, and saw all the nerium stuff had been taken down. I can’t imagine this was a cease and desist issue, if you aren’t lying and sharing personal experiences, there is no wrongdoing. It was probably more likely an issue of “your SEO is working too well, heres a fat check”. You are doing the lords work here Ian, when they come a knocking with that check, don’t take it.

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    Ian April 30, 2015

    Thanks for the comment, David! Even bearing in mind protection of opinions through freedom of speech, a lot of companies will still threaten webmasters using C&D letters, and unfortunately many don’t know their rights well enough to stand their ground. They get a big, scary letter from a mean, well-paid lawyer and lose three nights of sleep before finally caving and taking down the review.

    And if they come knocking with a check, I’ve never let my loyalty or opinion be purchased before and I’m not about to start now! No worries at all, and thank you very much for such a kind complement, David. Let me know if I can ever help you with anything.

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    Kyle September 12, 2015

    Which Lord are you talking about working for the Dark Lord? Wake up and smell the coffee David. The company is helping people. Why you have to be concrete about it barefaced truth is stuff works Company is getting bigger by helping people it’s not rocket science and hating on them is not helping anything. Pray for you bro….blessing to to stop and increase the peace for a change.

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Kim Casas May 13, 2015

Everyone has posted very PC comments. Ian you seem so sincerely kind & sweet my teeth hurt. I hope my tone doesn’t seem unkind. It’s not my intention. BUT…..

I’m so over & done MLMs hustlers. I have been approached many many times for decades by so called friends and family members.
I’m at a point where I believe if you get involved in an MLM you have underlying personal issues that need your attention. It’s never okay to use or pray on others. It’s bad. It’s wrong. It’s abusive and hurtful. I can’t see how or why anyone bright enough to recognize its a scam of sorts would still want to continue any kind of “friendship” or relationship with a person that does it.

Why Ian would you want to keep someone in your life that at best tried to use you and at worst is a predator? Did you ever consider your friendship may validate his character by the association with you (a seemly great & honest person) or compromise yours in the same way?

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    Ian May 13, 2015

    Hey Kim, no offense taken at all. Thanks for the thoughtful comment.

    The person that tried to recruit me wasn’t always in MLMs, and I don’t think every person involved with MLMs is malicious or looking to prey on others (although I can understand how someone could form that opinion based on experience). At first he wasn’t too pushy about it and seemed very respectful of my decision (as he had been when trying to recruit me for the previous MLM he was involved with years before) but I cut ties with him once it was clear that I was an “opportunity” for him and my $500-$1,000 for joining Nerium under him was more important than our friendship.

    It was the first time in the almost 10 years that I had known him that he got high-pressure, over-the-top, and didn’t seem to value our friendship over recruiting me anymore. I kept him in my life up until that point because he was a good friend on a different business path than I was, and it was great to catch up every once in a while and talk about what was working in each of our businesses (there aren’t a whole lot of people in my life that I can do that with). Up until that point, believe it or not, he had been a great friend for many years.

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Joe May 16, 2015

I am not a distributor with Nerium. I did purchase the product for my wife to try to get an honest opinion and she came to the conclusion that it did not work for her. As for their opportunity, I don’t know about their compensation plan. I am concerned about the negativity towards the network marketing industry by reading some of the comments. I don’t understand this “pushing products on friends.” Now if you have a bad product, then I understand. Some companies offer excellent products that do a lot of good for people. If you’re with a company with a great “real” opportunity, of course you want to tell your family and friends. Why wouldn’t you want to help them? I’ve been in the network marketing industry for 25 years and made some serious money. Networking works if you work. It’s a brilliant business plan that gives you a real vehicle for true residual income. What’s funny is that I’ve lost some friends who got mad at me for NOT telling them about the great opportunity I was in and they could have join my team from the start. So if you’re with the right company, then share this gift that will improve their lives. I thank God every day for the person who introduced me to my company. It changed my life forever and I helped a lot of people along the way.

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    Ian May 18, 2015

    I agree completely, Joe. I think network marketing gets a bad rap due to products like Nerium that don’t work for most people but have an army of people pushing them using high-pressure tactics. I know there are legitimate MLMs out there that have decent products, but I don’t believe that Nerium is one of them.

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      Kyle September 12, 2015

      Are you really trying to say that a company can push a crappy product and make a billion….BILLION DOLLARS in four years ? And keep growing? Number tell a story don’t they? Come on man really? A product that doesn’t work doing that well?…..I guess common sense really isn’t so common if your trying to snow me with that. Serious doesn’t make your logic credible at all.

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        Ian September 12, 2015

        Hey again Kyle – I do think it’s possible with he right sales force and business model. Especially when brand partners (even non-successful ones) are incentivized to stay on an auto-ship subscription.

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      Erin February 6, 2016

      I did MLM only once before and was not successful. Not because there was something wrong with that particular company model or products offered, but because I was not passionate about doing it. I was introduced to Nerium 6 months ago by an old friend, who I believe did it in a competely non-pressuring way. Thank goodness she introduced his to me! Not only did I start feeling textural changes in my skin by day 3, after 1 week I compared my photos side by side and their was an absolute difference. No doubt it worked and was easy and very gentle unlike harsh chemicals in products I had used before. Fast forward 6 months. My skin has completely changed and I can say it is better than it was 10 years ago. OF COURSE I’m going to tell every person I know about it. I have documented, untouched, unedited photos showing these major improvements. I have untouched, unedited photos of my husband, son, sister, mom, mother in law, aunt, cousin, countless friends and coworkers showing major differences. And they LOVE it! No doubt…the products WORK! If you use it correctly and do not expect an overnight miracle but give it a little time, you will be beyond pleased. Third party clinical trial out of ST&T Research Institute showed dramatic improvements in 4 weeks by facial scanning measurements. And Third party scientific study found in Dove Press showed the properties of the Nerium extract when combined with the Aloe extract to be totally safe and actually Anti-inflammatory and Antioxidant. The EHT molecule was discovered in Princeton University Labs and developed into a supplement by Princeton and Signum Biosciences. Nerium did not develop EHT. Rather Princeton and Signum patented it years ago, and licensed it to Nerium giving Nerium Global exclusive rights to distribute it. Signum has a list of its references to all its documented studies on its website. EHT is a scientific breakthrough for brain health. Who wouldn’t want to tell every single person they know and care about what EHT does for your brain! Pharmaceutical companies would kill to have EHT and the medical community is taking notice. Nerium could have taken these products and put them in every store in the country. Who would have benefited from that? CEO and Top execs only! Jeff Olson was smart and he actually does want to make people better. These products were going to be lost on the shelves in Macy’s and they were too valuable. MLM was the absolute best decision Jeff Olson could have made to get word out about these products. And guess what…instead of only the top execs gaining any benefit, every single one of us can be apart of it and better our lives and our children’s futures. Now let’s look at the start of 2016. Nerium hit #1 for Consumer products and Services in INC 5000, 2015. Nerium has become the 3rd fastest company in HISTORY to hit $1 Billion in Revenue, only slower than Groupon and Priceline. Nerium was just named “Top Fundraising Partner” to Big Brothers Big Sisters of America, having donated over $2 Million dollars and beating out Nike. Nerium gives 30% of all revenue back to their biotech companies cancer research. Nerium just launched its 4th country, Korea, and broke every Direct sales company record held in Korea. Record was held by NuSkin since 1984 and Nerium broke that record its first 4 days open in Korea. Nerium created over 200, 6 figure earners in Korea its first month. There are hundreds and hundreds of 6 figure earners in the U.S. and thousands and thousands of Lexus earners. The problem I have with this initial blog post is more or less that your issue is with your particular friend and other partners that have made anyone feel pressured because they were ecstatic about an amazing opportunity they hoped to share with their friends and family. The problem is not with Nerium products or the business model or the “greedy” company. The products are all the same and the model is the same for everyone. The partners that have actually stuck it out past the first couple of “no’s”, listened to the advice and tips from the management team that holds a cumulative of 250 years experience, and kept going and didn’t quit are certainly finding success. The only variable in this is the Brand Partner. Bashing the entire company or better yet the researchers and scientists that spent years developing and testing their discovers is ludacris to me. As a result of your friend that maybe continued to be a bit overenthusiastic and didn’t listen to your “no”, you are shutting down any type of hope that someone might have, that this actually could be the answer to the prayer that they have been praying. Nerium is helping people. Nerium’s Philosophy is “Loving, Caring, Sharing”. And its mission is to “Make People Better”. Nerium created the Happiness Movement and Live Happy Magazine. Where is your friend now?

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        Ian February 7, 2016

        I’m glad you’ve had such good experiences in the company, Erin. Best of luck to you as you continue to grow your business.

        In the case of my friend – it was not passion for the product, he treated me like a piggy bank (I think per his sponsor’s instructions) despite our multi-year friendship. He was enrolling dozens of brand partners and wanted me in the fold. I don’t believe it had anything to do with his passion for the product or his caring for me. He is still with Nerium as far as I know – I haven’t heard from him since publishing this blog post.

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          Deborah Norman December 25, 2016

          Hi Erin, I am so happy you are doing well. I am also
          It is absolutely the personality of the person involved. Im so sorry Ians friend treated him like a piggy bank however that is not the companies fault. that is the his friends personality fault.
          As a Coach I can say for sure because I have seen it so many times, that if not Nerium then it would have been another issue. If these problems are going to surface then they will no matter who the third party is, there will always be an avenue for growth and change for the better or not so comfortable. Remember know one can treat you bad without your permission, We allow others to treat us a certain way, we set the bar.

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        Drew September 16, 2016

        If you could please provide one example of where “the medical community is taking notice”. That’s what I’ve been looking for. Thanks in advance!

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Cameron May 21, 2015

Well .. Isn’t it a cheap tactic to mark down a much larger business to promote your own? lol …

If you’re going to .. Don’t lie to your community.

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    Ian May 21, 2015

    This couldn’t be more wrong. If I was in this to make money I’d be funneling visitors into something like Empower Network that converts like crazy and pays VERY well but is a total crap product that doesn’t do anything but leave people broke. I protect people with reviews and give them free training to get them started on their own without having to buy anything. There’s nothing cheap about that.

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Jaycee May 23, 2015

Thank you so much for writing this informative article regarding Nerium. With an acquaintance continuously hounding me to “join her team” and wanting to “share something that will change my life” I found this article extremely useful with how to deal with her predatory sales tactics. This kind of tactic is nothing more then a wolf in sheets clothing as the messages she sends on a weekly basis start out with false pleasantries. Showing up at my door with a bottle in her hand for me to try is like the religious peddlers that ring my bell on Saturdays. Apparently Nerium has developed some kind of brain health supplement and now she wants me to guinea pig it so she can meet her monthly quota and get that Lexus monthly bonus paid for. No thanks!

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    Ian May 25, 2015

    Thanks for taking the time to leave this comment, Jaycee. I’m really sorry you’re going through that, but I’m very happy to hear this article helped in some way.

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JOE Fernandez May 30, 2015

Hi Ian P,
I would like to hear your opinion on zija international.Have you heard about it?
Please let me know if you would like to try the product,I would be happy to send you a sample,
Truly,
Joe Fernandez

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    Ian June 2, 2015

    Hello Joe, I don’t review products outside of the internet marketing/affiliate marketing industry, and I don’t have any interest in joining a network marketing company. Thank you for stopping by.

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Linda in Midlothian, VA June 1, 2015

I tried Nerium for 5 days, it literally made me nauseous and gave me migranes!
Never again. I have a young friend who is a rep, and is thoroughly brainwashed.

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Sarah Erwin June 17, 2015

Hey! Great article. I am not a likely candidate to quit a direct sales company; I had great success, was a Regional Marketing Director in Nerium, and earned my Lexus within a couple months.
However, all that being said, I still made the very difficult decision to walk away. My decision was not a flippant one, or an easy one. Most people quit direct sales because of lack of success, not putting in the effort, not having the time, or a combination of those. I quit for none of those reasons:
After feeling incredibly uneasy by the Jeff Olson Brain-washing techniques, I kept giving Nerium a second chance. Sadly though, his – and all of the top money earners’ – techniques are nothing short of brain-washing and conniving innocent people to spend too much money for a company that has a success rate lower than the average MLM. I believe the product only works short-term, and have never ever witnessed anyone who’s used the product for more than a year with continued great results. I also could not stand by a company that consistently makes commission and auto delivery errors, promises huge exciting news with no follow through, etc. What it all summed up to me in my two years: a phoney company that makes a few people at the top very wealthy, while destroying those who are brand new. They destroy those peoples’ finances and relationships – all while convincing them this is just the “hill to keep climbing” to be successful.
Gross. In the end I let go of a few thousand dollars a month to have an ethical peace of mind. I sleep a lot better now, knowing the next person I meet isn’t my MLM Nerium prey.

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    Ian June 17, 2015

    Awesome comment, Sarah! Thank you so much for sharing your experiences with the rest of the community. I have no doubt that people researching Nerium here will find it very, very helpful.

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Amy June 22, 2015

I was a brand partner for about 5 months but stopped because I thought the business was unethical. I did earn a little bit of money but it wasn’t worth it to me to stay involved. You earn money by recruiting others and selling a dream, not through selling a product or meeting the needs of a consumer. The brain washing turns you into a zombie recruiting everywhere you go. I can’t live my life like that, seeing everyone as prospects and wrinkled skin. Humans beings are more than that to me. I care too deeply about people to see even one person waste their money. I liked my results with the Nerium Night & Day cream at first but after months of use, my skin looked terrible. It clogged my pores so badly around my chin. I had bumpy, red, broken out skin and I”m still trying to clear it up. I NEVER had problems with my skin, not even as a teenager, and my skin has never looked worse. Stay away.

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    Ian June 23, 2015

    That’s terrible, Amy! I’m so sorry to hear about your experiences, but thank you for sharing with the rest of the community. I’m sure many people will find your insight helpful. Surely a company that has their priorities set the way you’ve described in this comment can’t stay in business forever.

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      Jscott June 24, 2015

      Good write up. My wife was a brand partner for a year. She started out fast and built a team, flew to conferences and ended up taking a large loss at the end of the calendar year. But she made Director! She was totally brainwashed with the Nerium spin on MLMs (the classic was the comparison of “organizational charts” vis a vis Nerium and a mainstream company) and pointed out the “perks” of Ipads and a Lexus. We had two Ipads already and I flatly refused to accept a lease that I would be responsible for -when- her sales quota inevitably dropped. She already drove a luxury sports car- paid for in full.

      In the end, her team evaporated, sales slowed to a trickle and we were still paying for samples and access to the Nerium administrative site. I finally convinced her to close everything last July. I eventually sold her remaining inventory to the owner of a hair salon at 40c on the dollar.

      I think this is the classic MLM experience- income below minimum wage (after expenses) and annoying friends and family with the hard sell.

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        Ian June 25, 2015

        I couldn’t agree more. Thanks a lot for sharing your experiences – at least it’s all behind you all now.

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Dave July 3, 2015

Thanks for posting the article about Nerium. I have been approached by an acquaintance about this company. She told me she loved the compensation structure that Netium offered but when I asked about it she could not give me a very good answer on how it worked. I think she has been told by so many people how great it was she just believed what she was told. She had me excited about it citing all the studies done by Princeton U. and Duke U. I have since not been able to find any case studies done by Duke and could not find any independent case studies about their anti aging skin products or the new EHT brain pill.
I have used the face cream for the past 5 days and have actually had some improvement with the fading of some crows feet on outside of eyes but it’s only been 5 days so need to give it more time before I can say if it’s really helping or not for the long term.
It’s hard to tell a friend or even an acquaintance that your are not as excited about the Nerium products as they are but as you said I can’t with a good conscience try and sell a product that I am not 100% behind.
Thanks again for your article
Dave

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    Jenny Rogers October 13, 2015

    The information I found was on Signum Bioscience website, it’s openly available to the public.

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Ken July 22, 2015

I saw two white Lexus this morning with the Nerium stickers on the back and I knew something was up. I work for a fortune 100 company thats in the industry of dermatology and cosmetics. If there’s a wonder skin product, you can bet one of the large skin care companies such as Allergan, Skin Medica, Elta MD, ZO Obagi or Valeant will pick it up without even blinking. I hope folks thinking about joining this MLM/ pyramid scheme should take note that if it’s a proven product, the larger companies will have bought it outright. I hope everyone reading this understand these companies are trying to get people to recruit others to join the con rather than selling the actual product.

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    Ian July 23, 2015

    Thanks a lot for the insight, Ken! I couldn’t agree more.

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Joyce Sobczyk July 28, 2015

I love your comments. I was a consultant with Rodan and Fields, and everything you say rings true. One out of all their products was decent for me. Not fabulous but decent. It will change you. It is pressure every month to get to the goal. You will count on friends and family and it challenges your integrity. The top tier women are like Stepford wives. Scary and the company felt like a cult. I recently left the business and immediately felt relieved. Some of my clients were passed on to my upline as they did see results and wanted to continue for the record.

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Bradley August 13, 2015

Just a note: I had never even heard of Nerium International until they hacked into my checking account and withdrew $880. I Googled the phone number listed in my account statement and found it was Nerium Intl. I contacted them and after a long drawn out hassle and me reporting them to various agencies in Texas they mysteriously deposited the money back into my account. What the hell?

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Cristy August 31, 2015

My closest oldest friendship of 17 years is coming down to one sided conversations and tearful proclamations of “I don’t want to leave you behind when I’m rich, please join me, you deserve this”. I’m running two businesses right now and just starting out so I’m constantly struggling, after a year I’m finally able to pay my bills. But it’s all for me and I’m doing it without selling my soul, my way, in my name. I feel like she’s missing the point to true entrepreneurship. She boast about “residual income” but like everything else MLM related interest will fade and you’ve done all that work for nothing. I’ll take true passion over a leased Lexus any day.

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    Ian September 1, 2015

    I love your conviction, Cristy. Thank you for such a thoughtful and insightful comment.

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Kyle Mansfield September 12, 2015

Ian, I haven’t read all the comments but quite a few of them, and am wondering if you are allowing anything positive to be said about Nerium? I read your experience and I can empathize with what you went through with your friend, as I have also had to take a break from people that won’t respect my boundaries when it comes to business. But that’s about it, for resonating with your findings about the product I don’t agree at all. I have had great results across the board with previous paitcents and friends that have used it and continue to do so. Also your info is out of date and limited by the newer formulas from Signum Bio Science, Jeffery Stock from Princeton University. Much less the stellar brain formula EHT. I don’t know why people look at reviews on Amazon to make a decision about a product without experiencing it first hand and gain wisdom to decide if it’s right for you. I often read reviews about movies before I watch them but I find the critics are often missing the mark and don’t often decide to see the film based on reviews, but on my own discernment, make sense? Ian, I really appreciate what your trying to do in your site and am looking forward to going through the information that you provide for people. However I don’t think that it’s a fair comparison to direct sales and MLM, it’s apples and oranges. It’s really a shame that people are getting fanatical about this business, as that is not the case in my world. I don’t harass anyone to work with me, I never have, nor has my friend that I work with in Nerium. People unfortunately have fanatical tendencies especially when it comes to money and freedom. I’m sorry people on here have had bad experiences however as you know that doesn’t mean it’s all bad or it warrants, ” tossing out the baby with the bath water.” For myself, these products have worked very well over 90% of the time, and the business has worked very well for me as long as I have been professional and consistent. Thanks for listening and hopefully other brand partners can settle down, stop pushing folks if it’s not the right fit and just care and share with those like myself that it’s good for.

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    Ian September 12, 2015

    Hey Kyle! Thanks for stopping by and sharing another side of the story. I’m not censoring these and skewing them towards negative comments, there are just a lot more people stopping by and sharing their stories from the same side of the fence that I was on. As long as comments stay respectful and are helpful to the consumer, they will ALWAYS get published on this site. Thanks again for sharing your side and for being respectful of peoples’ boundaries. As you can see from my post and others’ comments, it’s entirely too rare, unfortunately.

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Samantha September 28, 2015

Hi there Ian.
It makes me sad that your friend did not respect the boundaries that you tried to put in play, however, just because you personally had a negative experience with a very pushy friend that decided to join the business does not mean that all of Nerium’s brand partners run their businesses that way. I just wanted to take a moment to say that I’ve been introduced to many MLM companies that seem to consistently push recruiting people to earn money (yes, this is a part of EVERY MLM) which I personally view to not be congruent with my moral compass when that is ALL the company pitches. I do not like MLMS that constantly require their reps to purchase unrealistic amounts of product, and pay for large monthly subscriptions. I just wanted to throw out there that I only paid for one bottle of night cream my first month. I was able to earn my monthly product for free (very quickly), and Nerium continues to ship me free inventory (I pay shipping) each time a customer buys more than one bottle (no time limit attached). I have made over half my initial investment back, and I have only been involved with this business for 2 months. This experience was extremely different from a prior MLM that I was involved with that required only $100.00 to start up, but after you subscribed to everything to get to their “next step” I had invested over $700.00 and made $8.00 my first MONTH. There are bad MLM companies out there, but Nerium is different. I guess I just wanted to say that if there is anyone who is reading this article (that seems to have a lot of negatively charged verbiage, and comments attached), that wants to say this is the stamp of negativity they can utilize to bring their friend or family member down, please don’t. Just take a moment to also research the ways in which Nerium does try to set themselves apart as a MLM company, and if its a family member or a loved one that has been “nerium brainwashed” try to take a moment and be happy that he/she has found something that brings them joy. This company is not a scam. There is not one skin care product that will work on EVERY persons face. That is completely unrealistic, but 90% of the people who I have had try the product have absolutely loved it. P.s. There are also many of people who have been using Nerium for a year to three years now solidly with no crazy face melting diseases. Considering this article was written when Nerium had only been around for a year it makes sense that you hadn’t seen anyone with “long term” results, but now those results are out there by the hundreds. Praying you post this to show that there are some level headed people out there that do support this opportunity within MORAL bounds, and DON’T shove “The Nerium Experience” down their friends and families throats. P.S.s. There is a negative story attached to EVERY SINGLE MLM out there…and yes, people go ItWorks! crazy, and Life Leadership Crazy, and Mary Kay crazy, and Essential Oil crazy and many, many other kinds of crazy! Its just all apart of the industry.
Thank you and I hope you have a wonderful day.

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    Ian September 30, 2015

    Thanks for taking the time to share your side of the story, Samantha! Best of luck to you in your business.

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Ryan October 4, 2015

My mom has done this for 7 months , pressures everyone she meets. She even told me she would pay my sign up fee. I didn’t do it. From the get -go I just felt uneasy about the company. She has spend countless dollars for product , training. In a nutshell . this company has tore my family apart. It’s truly sad. I believe it’s a fad that will soon fade away like everything else .

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    Ian October 4, 2015

    I’m really sorry to hear that, Ryan. Thank you very much for taking the time to share your experiences for others to benefit from, though.

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Jennifer P October 12, 2015

Hi Ian,
Thank you so much for your post. I started researching Nerium since my friend became a Brand Partner and started sending almost daily texts and Facebook postings (2 x a day) about Nerium. I completely relate to you on how being involved in a MLM company can affect a friendship. I too felt that my friend started seeing dollar signs and saw me as a customer rather than a friend. I think there are probably many Brand Partners that are great people (just like my friend) who do believe in the product, but I don’t think they realize how they are pressuring family and friends and making them feel uncomfortable. Nerium, like many other MLM companies make it sound like their company is different and that it is a great opportunity to make residual income, however I’m sure most who join do not find it to be sustainable income. She has shared how Nerium has grown to 1 Billion dollars in 4 years and how they are #1 in consumer products and services on the Inc 500 list, but I’m sure it is due to the high pressure sales tactics they promote. I ended up buying the night cream on auto order because I wanted to support my friend and because it was $30 cheaper if I did it that way rather than doing a 1 time order of $110. I did cancel after the first month because of the cost and after doing some research on my own. As you know, if you do buy a product and do not want to be a Brand Partner, you are pushed to get three people under you to buy the product and then yours is free. I feel that to get three people, who I like and are my friends to buy a product like the night cream for $80 (turns out to be $97 with tax and shipping) a month just so I could get mine for free would make me feel like a bad friend. My friend did not see it this way, but felt those friends could get three friends and they would get it for free too and then “we would all be in this together!”. It’s hard to get three people to buy any product especially when it’s sold by a MLM company. My friend is very motivated in selling, throwing parties and sharing with others and making it sound like she is doing great and I know she is struggling just to get three people under her just to buy the product on auto order. Thanks again for all the research you did and thanks for listening to my rant. I’m sure your post has helped others to make an informed decision on whether or not to join Nerium or any other MLM for that matter.

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    Ian October 13, 2015

    No problem at all, Jennifer! I’m very happy that this review and everyone else’s comments were helpful when making your decision. If I can help with anything else down the road, don’t hesitate to reach out.

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K October 14, 2015

Ian,

I was really glad to find your post. I recently had a negative experience with simply trying a sample of their product. I had an adverse reaction and was told basically that there were no other reports of what happened to me happening to anyone else. In searching the internet, I found that was not the case at all. I got a round-about talk more or less telling me that just because it didn’t work for me that doesn’t mean it won’t work for others and did I know anyone else I could refer to them? That felt more like a “please don’t bad-mouth us” talk than anything else. They wanted that bottle back ASAP, too. I would not personally recommend them to anyone, not just for the experience I had with the product but also for the way I was left feeling after speaking with people from the company about it.

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    Ian October 15, 2015

    I’m so sorry to hear that, K! Thank you for sharing your experiences for others to learn and benefit from, especially anyone else reading this that might have had a similar bad reaction.

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Don November 13, 2015

Is your friends name Antonio Pelayo?

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    Ian November 13, 2015

    No it’s not. I suppose you’ve had a very similar experience with another representative, then!

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Isabelle Zablocki December 7, 2015

Do you know what ingredients are in the creams? There is never one fits all type of products but if it works on more than 50 % of people and it is safe, then it is worth looking into it. Of course, it is always unpleasant to feel coerced in any way, especially by a friend.
What came out of your research? Let me know.
Isabelle

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    Ian December 7, 2015

    Hey Isabelle! I don’t know if it’s still the case, but when I was researching it, one of the active ingredients was a derivative of Oleander.

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Livia December 7, 2015

I found this post of yours looking for sites which give unbiased truths into MLM’s because recently via Facebook I have seen a lot of my friends turn to this, one form or another – Herbalife, Arbonne, Younique etc. Very often it’s status updates about ‘this is so great, buy some from me’ and then it suddenly goes quiet, they’ve obviously given up and are £200 lighter after paying for the starter kits.

I find it sad as I see it ALL over these local Facebook for sale sites which focus on cheap 2nd hand stuff – they target those with low or no incomes with children to look after so need flexible work. Yes it can be done, you can make money from it but no way are these people going to. Sorry… Start a business you care about and you may not give up after 2 months.

I run a business and I used to attend networking events in my local area but slowly these MLMs would take over. It wasn’t people running their passions anymore, it became people forcing you into a product… but before they’ve even sold that product to you it’s suddenly ‘Would you be interested in selling these’?

I had actually won an award for ‘young business person’ one year and I had a phone call afterwards from a lady who wanted to talk about ‘Young Britain’ and how youngsters were setting up more businesses etc. I got to the cafe and she spent two bloody hours trying to get me to to sell moisturiser and face wash. She knew full well that I worked a hell of a lot on something I had started from nothing, had actual passion for and she tried so hard to recruit me to sell ARBONNE!!! Ruthless. I love how she bragged about getting a brand new white Merc but I watched her walk back to a Toyota which hadn’t been washed in two years. I have a pretty bitter taste in my mouth because of that one and I seem to attract these horrible MLM sales people.

I have to say, the ONE I have come across who never tried to get me onboard as a recruit was Stella & Dot, and they have nice stuff. I had thought they were MLM but because of this I wasn’t too sure until I saw this.

Anyway rant over haha!

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    Ian December 7, 2015

    Haha, your experiences seem very similar to mine, Livia! Not with Nerium specifically, but with the MLM industry as a whole. I’ve been a “target” for people my whole life, and every one of my friends that has ended up joining one over the years prioritizes me highly as a potential “recruit” because I’ve always been entrepreneurial and they think that means I’ll be interested. I’be come across one or two non-pushy ones as well, but I think that comes down to the individual more than the company, as this business model is designed to reward those that are really aggressive.

    Thank you very much for sharing your thoughts and experiences! I’m sure others that come along to read the post will find it very helpful.

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Teri December 17, 2015

I was a Director with Nerium. Before that I had an extensive background in prestige brands and medical grade cosmetics. Nerium is one of a handfull of companies that had 3rd party verification done through ST&T Research. Please Google them. I doubt such a prestigious company would risk their reputation on a then completely unknown product. I have issues of my own with their comp plan. It is designed to keep the top people working. Anyone selling selling Nerium or any other cosmetic on Amazon is NONCOMPLIANT and unethical period! Nerium or any other product for that matter can be old, fake or a number of other things. The NeriumAD night treatment is hands down one of the best I’ve seen. Even if you’re not a brand partner, if you refer 3 friends you can receive your product free. Not too shabby. Brand partners are coached that no means not now. I personally didn’t chase people down. Who you sign with is very important with Nerium in my opinion. I made a big mistake. It is how it’s structured. If I would have created the company I may have done the same thing for the longevity of the company.( One of the biggest problems with MLM is the top people stop working.) The comp plan puts brand partners in direct competition with their upline. Anyone with patience and half a brain would focus on that person and leg and help them even if it meant they went slower themselves. In the long run it would pay off.

If your “friend” is recruiting too many people, he isn’t sponsoring them. I find it offensive that you are using this as a recruiting tool yourself. All MLM companies have their pros and cons. Nerium truly does hand people the tools to grow as most successful MLM companies do. Personally it annoys me that people recruit their friends when they have little understanding of how to sponsor. I listened to the company. I sponsored. If Nerium had a binary plan, I’d be soaring instead of licking my wounds from a competitive family member who couldn’t stand the thought of someone catching them in rank. Nerium isn’t for everyone. Their compliance team is working around the clock! There are great companies out there. I personally didn’t bash others. I became a customer…lol “Business opportunities are like buses, there is always another one coming” Richard Branson.

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Kim December 23, 2015

I read this thoroughly and I do not see your point. I know personally EVERYONE does business their own WAY. So, by using an example of your experience with ONE person doesn’t really tell me anything.
I have heard wonderful things about Neriums products and the company. I also know that my friend has sponsored about 40 people and 8 have received their Lexus already. When you JOIN a business. It is up to YOU the business owner to work your business.. I’m sorry but this is just a poor example..

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    Ian December 24, 2015

    There are several other comments here that make it clear this isn’t an isolated, anecdotal example, but very clearly something that at least a large sect of Nerium is teaching (if not Nerium as a whole) their business partners to do.

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      Stephanie December 30, 2015

      Hi Ian,

      I can’t imagine this is a good sampling of customers in Nerium. I haven’t experienced anything like this. I recently signed on because I sampled the product and loved the results I saw. I wasn’t pressured to try it and I have never pressured in offering it. My personal experience has been really good. I’ve offered the product to friends and family. The ones who loved it purchased it and the ones who didn’t want to try, passed. No big deal. I won’t ask them again, because I love them and respect their choices. I don’t think I’m the only one that feels this way. I used to think that all mlms were a scam, but I have done hours of research the past two months and found it to be a very legitimate business model. It’s also not all driven by greed. I homeschool 5 children and am open to a part time business that would cover the cost of the numerous books I like to buy on a monthly basis for our kids education. Is that greedy? It just takes the pressure off of my husband a little. I know many moms that are doing similar things. You shouldn’t knock an entire industry or business based on your experience and even the experience of all these others. There are numerous other people that don’t share your experience and are having success with this. Confirming people’s suggestion to “run” from Nerium shows you’re only interested in hearing those with your same opinion. There’s a whole other world of people out there with different experiences beyond what you know. Im sorry to read such a shortsighted review.

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        Ian December 31, 2015

        Hey Stephanie – I’m delighted to hear that the product worked well for you. I don’t think this review is shortsighted at all, just an opinion contrary yours. I’m aware that people out there are having better experiences (like you) and am happy for them. But I know based on my experiences, and experiences of many others that have commented on this review, that there are a large amount of Nerium business partners pushing the offer similarly to how aggressively it was pushed on me. If other people are having similar experiences, they really should run. If people are having experiences more similar to yours, why would they?

        Also, you mentioned greediness a couple of times in your comment, and not once did I say that MLMs imply greed or that people pursuing MLMs are inherently greedy. Do I believe the MLM business model incentivizes people to set others up for failure? Yes, I do. I’ve seen it time and time again in products like Empower Network, MTTB/MOBE, DS Domination, and countless others that have ZERO product and incredible compensation models. Does that apply to every MLM? No – definitely not. Does it imply to Nerium? I’m not sure. In my experience, the friend I had was signing up so many people that there’s absolutely zero way he could help them all become successful. Admittedly, at least they have a physical product.

        The majority of people that sign up with MLMs will fail – the vast majority at that. That statistic will apply to you, it would apply to me, and it will apply to anyone that signs up under you. Even if you overcome that statistic, and I sincerely hope you do if you sign up, the vast majority of your referrals will struggle and wash out – it’s just the nature of the business and it’s not always the sponsor’s fault.

        I know we hold contrary opinions, but that doesn’t mean I wish you anything but success. Good luck on your journey, and please come back and fill us in a few months from now if you decide to give it a go.

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Lexie December 30, 2015

Yes, MLMs ruin friendships. I have blocked numerous friends on Facebook because the posts about “join my team” got so annoying. I get on Facebook to see what’s going on in a person’s life, not to look at sales pitches for mascara, essential oils, or skin care. The bad part about blocking them is that you miss out on the rest of their life…the part you care about.

A few months ago I ran into one of my friends who sells Nerium (we hadn’t seen each other for just under a year) who I had unfollowed on facebook because of the sales pitch posts. She had a 3-month old baby with her and I had no idea she was even pregnant, and also missed the announcement. I felt bad, and told her that I didn’t know for the above mentioned reasons. She was upset, and accused me of not supporting her as a stay at home mom. I apologized, but I think that friendship is over. It’s just sad.

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Amit January 9, 2016

Good Article..If u donot believe in the product, Dont promote it PERIOD. Applying high pressure tactics seldom works. I am love the Industry and I am a veteran, the best way is to Expose and not to Impose…Let the prospect decide whats in it for them and value relationships..

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    Ian January 9, 2016

    That’s a great piece of advice, Amit! Thank you for sharing your experienced perspective.

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Ray Lanfear January 13, 2016

All businesses require work, there are no “free lunches”. If you decide to join any MLM, make sure you know how to market, its really all about the marketing period. Be consistent and persistent in your marketing efforts. And never, never give up on your dreams and goals in life. Surround yourself with like minded people, always avoid the negative and “dream killers’ type of persons. Get to know these people that can help you, Les Brown, Jerry the “Rhino” Clark, Ross Quinn, Jack Zufelt, Dani Johnson, Todd Falcone, Jeffrey Combs, Max Steingart, Jack Canfield, Andrew and Marie Murray aka “the mrketing couple”, just to name a few. And for sure read ” Think and Grow Rich” several times. Continued success to all of you .

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OV January 18, 2016

You are correct..you have to love the product to really believe in what you do. Now, just because the product doesnt have immediate results for one person doesn’t mean it won’t work for others. I stopped reading When you stated “I’m personally failing a lot of people”. Here’s the issue.. everybody wants to be rich, but the truth is only 5% have the will power, mindset and proven system to actually achieve their goals in life…that goes just the same for any business. Most people with low belief in themselves and unrealistic expectations for instant success will quit after they get their first 5 no’s and their ego is hurt. They will blame the product, the company their sponsor, their know it all neighbor or the economy…everyone but themselves to save face and admit they quit. This is human nature and can not be changed. If someone approached you about Nerium it’s because they love the product, the company and the potential to make a very lucrative income in a time when there’s no security in working for corporate America. They care about you and would love to share their journey with you. For the most part, most people will make a couple hundred month if they hustle and sell product which after a few years could generate a very nice residual income but for those that understand how a traditional corporate sales team operates they will build a small army of a lot of people doing a little bit every month and those are the folks who will do very well. Just like the rest of the world…only the creme will rise to the top…it is 100% the responsibility of the individual to achieve their goals and no one else’s…so don’t think for a minute you as a sponsor would be failing anyone that decides to do this business. Good luck to all and if you are looking for a piece of the Nerium pie and need a genuine leader to guide you, I too am here.

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Lee J February 2, 2016

I am glad I came to this website. My supervisor tried to recruit me into this business, it has been a nightmare since. (Little background: she was recruited by her supervisor, my supervisor has recruited all of her colleagues to this system.) Every since I told my her I would look into it, it seems like overnight I’ve had over half a dozen supervisors try to friend me on Facebook. My supervisor has came into my office too many times to count to show me pictures of Lexus and telling me how I can get a car in a couple of months. I finally told her that I just wasn’t interested. Well, I am still having Facebook “Nerium” parties. Random people messaging me about how good I would be at selling this product. Still getting the “you should still think about it…” from my supervisor. It has absolutely tainted my professional relationship. I felt like I was being backed into a corner. Because of the desperation that came from this people, I felt like I was subconsciously obligated to purchase something from my “supervisor.” I put in my notice of resignation last week. I am so glad this mess is behind me!

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Erin February 6, 2016

You should feel flattered that your friend wanted to take you with him and did not want to give up on you so easy. Interesting your blog is totally bashing based on opinion and ZERO facts. This will inevitably steer well deserving people away from a life changing opportunity. You are not meaning to save anyone from joining this company. Ulterior motives here. Will not be doing any of your training.

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    Ian February 7, 2016

    I doubt that the many, many people sharing their negative experiences on this post would agree with you. What you’ve done by coming here and posting several comments (one of which directly insults and attacks a previous commenter) is support what many people have said about Nerium’s brand partners being overly-zealous and aggressive towards anyone that challenges their point of view. I’ve had a handful of Nerium partners come and share very civil, respectful thoughts which I will always publish, even when contrary to my opinion, to help others considering the product get the information they’re seeking.

    Disrespectful or overly aggressive comments will not be published. I’m glad you’ve had good experiences with the company, but if you’d like to share something else about Nerium (in reply to me or another commenter here), please remain respectful at all times. It does not reflect well on you or your company when you respond so aggressively as you did to Michelle below.

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Kat February 22, 2016

Thank you, thank you THANK YOU!!! I am so glad I read your blog before I got caught up in the Nerium “family” I had been approached by a coworker on behalf of his gf. This is my response to him, after reading not only your blog, but the other responses that you received.

B—-, I don’t normally spends lots of money on high priced products. Over the years I have become convinced that a healthy lifestyle that includes diligent skin care, good nutrition, and preventative measures such as sunscreen is really the only thing that really works. That being said, since you are a friend, I thought that if research supported the claims, that I would try the product. I went to the site you gave me to buy, saw the price, and decided I had to research even further, before spending that much. What I can say to you at this point is that D— would NOT want me. I won’t push people. Family, friends, or anyone else to spend their hard earned money on a product that promises miracles. I would have to see that as the truth, and at this point, my research isn’t pointing in that direction. I wish D— the best of luck, and hope she earns a Lexus. Thank you for thinking of me.

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    Ian February 22, 2016

    Beautiful, and very well said, Kat! Hopefully other readers will find it helpful if deciding to gracefully turn down their friends and loved ones when approached too 🙂 Thank you for sharing!

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Julie March 6, 2016

This was very helpful as I am currently being persued for the SECOND time around by a friend I thought I made it clear to that I wasn’t interested. I guess I wasn’t clear enough. Now that I know how the Lexus thing works, it makes sense! These “friends” are picking out their Lexus and need to make sure they make their bonus so they aren’t stuck paying the lease payment themselves! They are going back through their “warm market” list for the people that said no the first time! I’m half tempted to post your article on my Facebook page because this woman “creeps” there, too. You know the type…the first one to like a picture, make a comment…Thank you for giving me the answers I was looking for!

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    Ian March 6, 2016

    You’re very welcome, Julie! I’m sorry you’re being put through that but I’m happy that you found this review helpful.

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Kevin March 9, 2016

Thank you for the write up and for those of you that commented. My girlfriend was sucked into trying and buying into this product recently and has since become a brand partner and it is all she has focused her efforts on since. We can not go an hour without Nerium being brought up in conversation. I have expressed to her that it has really taken a toll on our relationship but she just gets upset saying that I am not being supportive. I have really tried to provide positive reinforcement, but I keep finding flaws with the product, company, and brand partners. I tried the night cream for a month hoping to be convinced but noticed nothing but a nighty foul smell from the stuff. I constantly point out false advertising and clear photoshopped results. I have asked her to remove several that she has reposted as they were found to be blatant lies. I do not like these new Nerium “family” members that others have mentioned. She “friends” new ones daily and my conversations with her have gone from fun and funny, to me talking and her staring at her phone commenting or liking Nerium posts. At this point it has really taken much more of a toll on our relationship than she realizes despite my trying to talk to her about it. I don’t like that she is promoting a product to her family and friends like this and her actions have been completely out of character lately. She has seemed to become “money hungry’ and I don’t know what else to do. I think that if I could provide some sort of proof that the results people post and advertisements are false she may listen. She is convincing herself that the product is working but all i have noticed is that it made her break out the first few weeks and now has just seemed to remain the same. Does anyone have any recommendations or studies to show the lack of credibility of the product and company?

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Ilsia March 17, 2016

hello! My English is not so good but I still want to comment. Is obvious that you have a wound related to your broken friendship but is not fair to blame Nerium for this sadly situation. Let me tell you something, I’m in the science field and the product has enough science evidence. Some dr said negative comments but there are the least. Nerium has many dr and science professionals using the product and some of them decide to sharing the opportunity. See Dr. Daniel Amen a very reliable USA psychiatric recommended NERIUM EHT. Nerium products really work and the marketing plan is very simple and achievable including for people without any MLM experience. Nerium has a 16,617 % in grow and it will continue to success whether you like it or not. The error in this situation is that your friend should had respect your opinion and should had not continue talk about Nerium. Obviously he doesn’t need you to have success because as you already said he’s very successful but real friendship is more important.I told to some friends and family about Nerium opportunity . Some interesting and some not interesting and I respect that and they still my family and my friends. Nerium is a professional company. They are not responsible for the way some people doing the business.

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I'm Rick James March 19, 2016

I find this fascinating. This post has made a great read and I’m sorry to see so many relationships ruined. I was recently approached by an acquaintance who sipped some Nerium kool aid. I was given a sample for my mom to try. I decided to do a bit of research myself and stumbled on the countless Amazon reviews. Verdict: I don’t think I want to even put this product in her hands after seeing so many negative reviews about rashes/blisters/nausea/over drying… And strained/ruined friendships

This led me to your blog. The lingo and jargon of the many Nerium ambassadors that have commented on this post is eerily similar to that of my acquaintance. Feels like the Stepford Wives or something from a sci-go movie. Thank you Google, and thank you Ian. Stay frosty and make your own kool aid.

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    Ian March 19, 2016

    Thanks Rick James! 🙂

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Kim March 30, 2016

Are you going to do another review now that Nerium is 4+ years old, in 4 countries (launching into 3 more in 2016), broken sales records, earned many product & business awards, $1 Bil cumulative in sales, projected to make $1 Bil again this year, has 20K+ brand partners, & WAY more than 7 Lexus owners? With free inventory, you really have to do 0 work to not make a profit! Nerium is the best!😍

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Asia N D April 9, 2016

I believe it depends on your team. I just started nerium and I wasn’t sold on the perks but the products. I’m 25 and my skin is healthy but acn, uneven skin tone, and dark spots made me hate my face sometimes. After 5 days of using nerium, my face is clear. I have 4 kids so of course I have stretch marks, but they are fading away after just 2 weeks. My team is focused on helping people feel good about themselves and having healthy skin. Everyone’s skin is different though. Nerium has done wonders for me but my sister in-law had a bad reaction to the night cream, BUT she has psoriasis and a serious case of it too. My husband is getting compliments at work on his skin. I lover the product. My team isn’t focused on signing people up, we just want to share the product. If someone doesn’t want to try it or buy it, that’s ok with us. Its a hit or miss kind of deal with the product and being a partner, but everyone is different, skin, mind, views, ect.
I’m sorry that people have had bad experiences and I pray mine continues on this good path with nerium.
Informative article!

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Lyn April 16, 2016

Thank you for posting. I have a friend who I am somewhat avoiding because she’s so insistent re: Nerium. I’m happy it’s working for her and she’s making money. I tried it. It dried my skin out. End of story so why does she keep asking me for before/after photos and ask me to try again? Ugh.

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JHS April 17, 2016

Can’t you just buy some Neruim without getting into the whole MLM mess?

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Gisele April 21, 2016

I will begin by stating upfront that I use the Nerium products and they work for me. I’m also giving myself one-year as a Nerium brand partner to truly delve into this kind of business. It’s not a lottery ticket. It’s hard work. Not unlike most jobs I have had. I have worked very hard the past 30 years. The various statements you make in your article can be said of so many jobs and so many companies out there not only network marketing. Bad bosses, aggressive colleagues, working 10 hour days for a company whose values are a hoax. Working 18 years for a company and being walked out the door because they can’t afford you anymore. I understand this is what you have chosen to do…stop scams but, in the end, this is simply your opinion based on a small sample size of experiences. What about companies that pay millions in advertising, pay millions to a “star” to convince us their product is the best? The star doesn’t need the money. The advertising company is making a load of cash as well…on people’s backs. How is that better? Someone tells you they loved a movie and talks you into going to see it. You hate it. Does that make this person evil, pushy, a monster? Someone suggests you buy a stock and it crashes! It happens. I’ve seen it. You don’t like the products. Don’t buy them. Your article would have been a lot more informative if you had taken the time to talk to some people who have actually been successful in this industry and have helped others. They do exist. Balance! Options! Leave people with choices! I simply hope my friends and family have open minds. All I am doing is trying to make an honest living and hope I can help people in my life who have no pension or have been fired by big corporations with no concern for their future. There are real scams out there. Nerium is not a scam. In a year, i will be in a better position to tell you what they are, in my experience, not just in my opinion. Have an awesome day!

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vica May 7, 2016

If you truly are up for honest opinion … Nerium EHT eliminated my migraines … completely after years of all doctors failed to. The cream healed my face. I do not need to read about the products. I have used them and they have changed my life. I know why Nerium distributors are passionate – they are looking for people like me to be helped. As it takes two to have a great friendship, I sincerely hope that you will do your part in your relationship with your friend. If you are bothered by his prospecting, why not be a friend and tell him honestly that he has crossed your comfort line? If you truly believed in something as he does, and if you are his friend, I am sure, you would be trying to have him see the benefit also. If you cannot share your excitement and passion with your best friends, who with then? 🙂
As I have a coaching company, I have now recommended EHT to many many of my clients seeking mental clarity, focus and recall. All of them have come back with nothing but gratitude as their lives being changed also.

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Jackson May 7, 2016

Ian, my interest in Nerium, first and foremost, is the quality of the product and the results. I completely understand how opinions can easily be bought, so being skeptical is wise, which is why I found your site. However, I also understand that no matter what the product, you can always find an “expert” with a negative opinion of the product, especially doctors. If a product is foreign to a doctor’s awareness, or not a pharmaceutical (e.g. vitamins, homopathics, chiropractic, etc.) many doctors discredit on mere face value. So, my goal would be to find truly unbiased, objective studies of Nerium. I would appreciate it if you could share the research you found, as I am sincerely interested in benefiting from the product, if the results could be achieved. I understand you have your doubts on the validity of the product, but I believe much of your opinion may be formed as much or more by the experience you have had with your friend and experience with pushy MLM sales tactics in general.

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michelle May 23, 2016

Hello,
I did enjoy your article. As a former brand partner for Nerium int, it is very difficult to keep 3 preferred customers to recieve your free night cream and there are many things you are not told until you join, like you have to pay $96.43 a month for a bottle of night cream to stay active, once you have 3 preferred customers your stuff will be free, but the 3rd customer has to receive their 2nd month of shipment, also you have to pay for shipping and once one of your 3 drop off, your back up to paying for your night cream again just to stay active.

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Jay Gumbs June 6, 2016

As I was reading the part where you did the research and found out the bad things about it and how your friend pointed you to his research, I had the feeling that the product was created for the opportunity and not the other way round as it should be.

You know what I mean?

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    Ian June 7, 2016

    That’s kind of how it felt to me too. I know exactly what you mean.

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Linda June 10, 2016

Thanks for all your research. I was thinking about joining, but not sure, especially after reading your honest review. Trying to find the right fit for starting my business…..like you said…” You have to believe in what your selling.” Well, guess I’ll keep looking…if you have any ideas …I’m opened….thanks again for your help.

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Rh July 27, 2016

Thank you so much for this review. I had been ‘recruited’ a few days ago in Australia and it sounded so great bla bla bla but initially we were told nothing of up-front costs and on-going costs. They had ‘officially welcomed’ us to the team before fully telling us what we had signed up for. If you ask me, having to buy 1 $170AUD bottle of product each month is insane! Not to mention the $645AUD start up cost! I didn’t want to have myself associated with any products that were not 100% safe and effective so I decided to do my own research and could find nothing to support their claims of safety and amazing results other than the studies which were Nerium funded. I did find out that the Nerium Oleander plant itself is toxic in all parts and that did alarm me. I have to say I didn’t really experience the ‘pushy’ sales techniques but I was too eager to do something exciting I suppose. Now I’ve made up my mind and decided I will not be joining Nerium as a brand partner or customer. I really need to remember that network marketing or ‘pyramid schemes’ really aren’t for me because I am not that kind of person… Wow it’s do easy to get carried away in an idea tho right? .. New Lexus, holidays! I wonder how many people have been roped in without realising that it’s not for them and then regrettably spent hundreds of dollars??? I guess the ‘up-line’ wouldn’t mind it’s still a little money in their pockets.

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Susie July 28, 2016

Hey Ian,
I actually am a Nerium brand partner. lol Love most of their products, except the latest one, only because I’m allergic to something in it. I have super sensitive skin and am allergic to most things on the market today.
However, I can use Nerium, and I love the way it makes my skin look, I also love the brain product…. It has changed my life. Not trying to pump it up, just letting you know how I feel about “most” of the products. 😉

With that said, I’ve been a brand partner for almost 3 years. And I’m not successful at all with the company. (hahaha I;m stil at the entry level) I’ve tried and tried everything they said to do… Then I found this other person, who’s a coach, and realized the whole way they promote is wrong.

Yes, I still love the products… But, People need to be trained to interact with others and NOT do what they’re doing. It’s all because they want everyone to think that anyone can do this business and you don’t need to know anything at all….

This is wrong. You do need to know how to talk like a normal person and not turn your family and friends off….

So, long story short, I will always use their products…. I am working on a different avenue of income though.(probably not mlm lol) But, I will tell you, if I come across someone that possibly needs this product, I will ask them….

this question… and only this question…

My company’s introducing a product for people who have brain fog and trouble remembering things, like what happened to me when I couldn’t even remember… my son… had gotten married…
Do you know anyone who might like to know about a product like that?

There, if they say yes, we can proceed.. if they say no. Ok that’s great too. But, that’s it…. not hounding people and shoving it down their throats… No beating them over the head with the companys name and how great they are, etc… So so tired of that. 🙁 I’m ONLY promoting the product and only 1 question… Takes all the pressure off me and the prospect. 🙂

Sigh.. I just do wish they would teach another way of promoting it because it could be so amazing if they did… Not everyone is your prospect…
I learned that from Kim Klaver…. 😉

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    Ian July 28, 2016

    Thanks so much for sharing your experiences, Susie. And thank you on behalf of everyone you’ve approached about the opportunity, whether or not they realized it, because you’ve been so respectful.

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Jeona Sanders September 7, 2016

I enjoyed reading your reviews. I do another direct selling company but my new boss is involved in Nerium and moving up quickly on the chain. From all others I have read it doesn’t seem like the products are safe. I feel awful not saying something to her but being one that sales products I wouldn’t want it to sound like I am doing to get me orders. But it was most refreshing to read yours.

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    Ian September 7, 2016

    Unfortunately, if you brought up the safety issue she would likely respond with something from the Nerium training. I’m very happy that you found my review helpful, Jeona! Thank you very much for taking the time to leave a comment letting me know.

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Steve Arce September 14, 2016

You wrote a great article.

Thank you very much.

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Mary September 16, 2016

WARNING!!! Do Not Buy NeriumAD on Amazon.com
Nerium International™ does not authorize any sales through Amazon.com. Purchasing from Amazon instead of from a certified Brand Partner might result in a lower quality product, reduced effectiveness of the product, and increased likelihood of being scammed. We want to make sure everyone that purchases NeriumAD® gets the most out of their purchase to help their skin look and feel amazing. When you purchase from Amazon or related online retailers we cannot offer warranty on the product or any refunds either.
Buy from nerium website through reputable brand partner!

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Lenore September 21, 2016

Thanks for your post. I am indeed reading it because I have been approached or someone has attempted to “recruit” me. Everything about this company turns me off and I will tell you why. The person that is hounding me is not a friend but an immediate family member. Our communications have gone from “how are the kids?” to “did you buy the Nerium yet?” It is cult like and I feel like I lost a sister in law to it. I have even been told when I said I am not sure about the product that “we are family, we need to support each other” or “you can afford it, what’s the big deal?”. I have a corporate full time job as well as own a catering business with my husband while raising two children, I do not have any interest in adding anymore to my plate nor do I need to. And I work in marketing and am all too knowledgeable about how MLM’s work. Still, I finally broke down and told her I would at least buy the product from her and to my dismay…like you, I am simply not finding any positive product reviews that come across as truly organic and not put up there by someone pushing the product. Guess I will have to buy and shove it in a drawer!

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Scoop October 5, 2016

I never tried their product and have no interest in trying. I am in a different MLM. But you stated that you wasnt impressed by the fact that only a small % of people qualified for a Lexus, but keep in mind that most people treat the business like a hobby and wonder why it doesnt grow. You shouldnt be skeptical because most dont do anything BIG. Most wont take action. Most wont invest into themselves and ect

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JDT October 20, 2016

A friend of mine sent me this review to check out.
I’m in Australia and nerium was launched here today.
People are here from the states promoting the product and MLM… including a dear friend of mine who has gone crazy since she went to a promotional gathering. I’m Concetned about having to pay a company to sell their product. I realize you wrote this review roughly two years ago but i found it to be articulate and very helpful to my decision making
Process 2 years later. Thank you!

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    Alison November 8, 2016

    Hi I too have a friend caught up in the Nerium pyramid scam. She has been busy trying to con our mutual friends to join in so I thought I’d do some research. It all smells like bs to me! After doing some Facebook stalking it appears that one of the Co founders of B’Luxe Nerium posts that she has earns more $ in a month than some do all year! Hmmmm! I wonder if the people on the bottom of the pyramid busting their chops to recruit as many as they can just to be able to get a free product would be impressed to read that? I’m guessing the bottom feeders aren’t rolling in $ like co founders/director s as was posted on FB by Susie Hill quoting Taryn Lee. Wake up people just because Zoe O’Brien has been on the Batchelor doesn’t make the product credible. You only have to see the other MLM scams These people are connected to to realise you are a pawn in their game helping them to get richer quicker whilst you little bottom feeders do all the work. Don’t let the promise of free holidays and working in your pjs blind you. Get a real job!

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Deirdre Harris October 31, 2016

Hi, is there anything that you can recommend in terms of online marketing, but great article. Very complete.

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Violet November 7, 2016

Thank you so much for this article. My mother has been in Nerium for several years and it drives me nuts. She spends more money on trips than she earns. She has earned a lot of free trips, to be fair, and the Lexus and iPad, but she basically only talks to her old friends to try to recruit them or talk to them about Nerium. Any time I make a new friend, she’ll say, “So when can I talk to them about Nerium?” Um, the 5th of never. Ever. She also gets mad at my brother and me for not “supporting” her business more, ie, telling all our friends about it, or using our professional skills (my brother is a video producer and I’m a marketing strategist) to help her make more money.

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Lessons Learned Thehardway November 8, 2016

I have a friend who is just raving about this product and how well it works on cellulite and wrinkles. She had a party (I couldn’t attend) and I assumed it would be about selling the product like a candle party. My other friends who attended the party said it was weird. It was weird because they didn’t try to sell product, they were trying to sell you into becoming a “brand partner”. My initial instinct was this is a pyramid scheme. MLM’s are really good to the people who start the first day at the company because the benefit off of every one under them. The people who lose are the the people who are usually strapped for cash and feel bullied (by friends or family) to join. They’ll tell you it’s a great career opportunity, all you need to do is get 4, 5 or 6 people to sign up under you. As for my friend who had the initial party, well, she is having another one less than a month after the first (inviting the same people. Hopefully this helps people to decide that MLM is virtually a pyramid scheme. You’re gut is telling you that you shouldn’t do it for a very good reason. Listen to it and stick to your guns!! If you’re successful in this business, it usually means you’re the first to introduce this to your community. The people below you or the people below those people are reall struggling, but hey as long as your making the money, who cares, right?

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Simone December 8, 2016

I became a senior brand partner in nerium since launch day 20th October 2016 here in Australia. I have since been betrayed by the yanks costing me 5 close friends, stress, my health, financially and they are using us Australians to get to our friends and take them away, destroying our friendship. This company now within short time I once believed in is a scam to honest people’s lives in Australia. Ii was fooled and now waiting for the head office to open so I can take legal action. Please feel free to contact me if you want to know more. Regards Simone

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Andrew December 15, 2016

I have a lot of family trying to get me into this. It’s quite sad. It’s a scam and I knew that from the start. There really aren’t any MLM’s that are smart to get into. I feel betrayed by family and by anyone who would promote this because you’re leading people you care about to failure. Honestly, stay away from nerium and any other mlm.

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Deb Norman December 25, 2016

Hi, Thank you for your post. I started as a customer then moved on to be a Brand Partner. I cannot speak for how things are done in the States or speak for others but for me, I had no experience in MLM. I was blown away at how amazing my skin is since using this product. Everyone I have given it to is having amazing results also. It works. Compared to what we would pay in David Jones or Myer for a cream developed by cosmetic companies there is no comparison. People dont recognise my close ups it has made such a difference. I believe that the doctors putting this product down are the same ones who dont believe in natural or alternative therapies which I am also very content with the results of for myself and 5 children. Competition like this can bring out the worst in people only that have that underlying part to their personality. Nerium cant break friendships, peoples behavior breaks friendships. Your friend must have competitive streak or a fear of some description that you were not aware of to turn like that. You can know someone for a long time and still not know their shadow. Im sorry this has happened. I have seen it in many areas of life as I am also a Robbins Madanas Trained Coach. We are able to work alone or join in team activities. we only look for 3 people to team with and then help them do the same. you can just sell product and succeed as well. It is not purchased first to sell, website does that direct from company, Our support is 24/7, we have more training than we can handle if you want it. No other company gives free product and a website to customers for introducing new customers. They can leave at any time. I won an Ipad in 5 weeks and on my way to lexus. I get paid for what I do every week. So many in our teams are winning all the goodies. You can choose the cash over the Ipad or lexus which is Audi is AUS, Our kits are an investment for our business which is tax deductible. We dont sell our kits, we use it to give out for trials to show people how fast it works. you only buy one. If I set up a beauty shop it would cost me thousands, same things. You can reach your first goal by getting 3 people to join with you OR have 9 people buy from your website. comp plan is amazing. I would rather do this than work for coles or kmart at 17 an hour no matter how hard I work, while the CEO and manager gets millions. I am very happy with the company, its structure and product. All of our photos and our faces are amazing. There is a 30 day money back guarantee if you are not satisfied. I wouldnt take much notice of doctors who are not trained in science the way these guys are, they are research scientists, and I know from growing up in this industry that others will try to ruin a good product for fear of it dominating the market. I grew up with a father who was a manager of Revlon Cosmetics when I was young. He explained to me what a true Pyramid is, He is also an accountant. Nerium is neither a pyramid nor a fake. I am very satisfied with it and think it is wonderful for stay at home mums do get on their feet. Thank you so much for allowing us to give feedback on this. I would just like to say that I have watched people join this and then let it sit there, they dont show it, talk about it, get business cards or even post an add. How can they expect to make a business work if they are not going to work it. This is a big problem so I would suggest you be picky in who you bring on, make sure that they are really committed to their business and not just grabbing it because they saw the prizes as they do have to work for them like in any company but It is worth it. I would also suggest that you take the cash not the car for about a year, to ensure your team and your business are secure and growing, then you can get the car or choose to buy yourself what ever you want. I hope this helps. Our team is very Integral, and we have noticed some young guns out there giving the company a bad name with their Ignorant and pushy behavior, they do need to be dealt with as I know from a conversation I had in my car while driving the CEOS son inlaw around Surfers Paradise recently that this is not what his father inlaw wants, He is an amazing man who wants to use an amazing product to help bring jobs to those who cant get them and a product to everyone that is truly remarkable. Not one of my friendships has suffered and most of my friends I would not even ask them to come on board however I do ask them to try and it and give feedback on it and so far they have all stayed with it as the results have been truly amazing. I would not even flinch if they sent it back, It is personal choice. I am happy to answer any questions, If I do not know the answer I will find it.

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Jacquelyn Tobin January 8, 2017

Thnx for writing this as was feeling i’d lost relationships ovrr mlm. Friend introduced me mlm and said company was better than last she’d worked for where she had ‘lost her shirt’. joined as was looking for part time work. She paid for my kit. Was told lots of training and as it turned out, was videos telling you all you could earn IF you sold so much product AND recruited. This info was reiterated in print in monthly ‘newsletter’, also considered training. There were training meetings at franchise owners home, which I couldn’t attend bc I was in another city. As it turns out, learned very little training occurs. Lots of product handed out as awards for recruiting and total sales. Starting to sound very familiar to other “work part time/ get rich quick” mlm models. Realized with all the travel and “party” setup and follow up, I was earning $1/hour for a 40 hour/week partite job. Then I got approached to start in another ground level mlm company. I said no and never hear from them again. Never made enough to finish paying for the kit…still owe $150.

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